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Wild Kratom Psychedelic Tea

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12.11.2008

Psychedelic Week

Kratom

Better known to scientists as mitragyna specioso, Wild Kratom is not only the real deal, but legal here in the US of A. Information is sparse on this psychedelic herb, though it is available for purchase from several websites, including Sage Wisdom, I Am Shaman and others. I’ve tried Wild Kratom Tea once, and I got the tea from Sage Wisdom.

So what happens when you guzzle a tea cup of this stuff? According to Sage Wisdom, “At strong doses (16-25 grams) the effects are profoundly euphoric and immensely pleasurable. Typically people describe the effects as dreamy, ecstatic, and blissful.”

As for my own experience, I think I overdid it. There was a chart suggesting dosages based on your experience, and being the egomaniac I am I considered myself a pro. In addition to Sage Wisdom’s description, my body melted into a gooey substance and it took me like 3 hours to make my way to the fridge to grab some snacks, with the 3 hour journey itself being a dark side of the moon of questions that I’m sure will only be answered through the careful exploration of more Wild Kratom. I drank this with a lady friend, and recall strong aphrodisiac effects as well, though any sexual motivations while under the influence of Wild Kratom are unrealistic endeavors, as it is likely you’ll never get past giggling.



Comments

  1. Sassman | Friday, December 12, 2008

    You must be kidding right? Kratom is NOT even close to being psychedelic. And the effects could hardly be described as “profoundly euphoric and immensely pleasurable”. It’s more like a couple cups of coffee. The amount that you have given in your article is huge. I have been using kratom for over a year, and I typically use about 4g at a time. If a first time user would take that much kratom, they would end up sick as a dog puking their guts out and then fall asleep. I wonder if you have ever even tried kratom?


  2. Jeff | Friday, December 12, 2008

    @Sassman The Kratom User’s Guide says the following,

    16-25 grams = strong effects (sedative-euphoric-analgesic effects; too strong for highly sensitive people)

    Maybe Alan K. isn’t that sensitive, it does sound like he was feeling the sedative part though.


  3. Jeff | Friday, December 12, 2008

    Link: http://www.sagewisdom.org/kratomguide.html


  4. TJ McNastry | Friday, December 12, 2008

    Interesting Sassman, did you know that there are actually four different grades of Kratom, ranging from low potency to and extremely concentrated potentcy. depending on potentcy and your tolerance you could ingest large quanitites of a low concentrated grade. Like many Hallucenogens you usually must consume enough to make you feel sick prior to being overcome with euphoria.

    “Mitragyna speciosa(kratom) is a leafy tree that grows from 3-15 meters tall. Its leaves contain mitragynine and are chewed as an opiate substitute and stimulant in Thailand and South-East Asia”

    Read up:

    http://www.erowid.org/plants/kratom/kratom_dose.shtml


  5. Sassman | Friday, December 12, 2008

    Yeah, I know all about kratom. I run the Kratomfacts website. There are certainly different types of kratom, but 16-25 g is still a large amount even for the lowest grade with tolerance. I use plain bali (the lowest grade), and still require only about 3-5 g. BTW, kratom is NOT a hallucinogen meaning that it is in no way hallucinogenic no matter how much you take. As for euphoria, kratom is more like a nice sense of well being or a nice sunny day. If you want euphoria, try a real opiate. Kratom might be an opioid agonist, but it isn’t the same thing as an opiate. Very different.


  6. Molokovelocet | Friday, December 12, 2008

    Well first of all the guy who wrote this article is so insanely obviously full of shit. He obviously never tried it or else he and anybody else but the biggest of kratom addicts would be HORRIBLY sick with that rediculous dose.

    The guy who wrote that article obviously lied.

    Ontop of that why the hell is he calling kratom a psychadelic??

    Also there arent 4 “grades” of kratom. There are various (more than 4…) different kinds of kratom… some different species and some different varieties of the same species.

    Whats with all the people who know nothing about kratom but choose to say or act like that do on the internet??


  7. Alan Kropf | Friday, December 12, 2008

    Apparently Kratom has a way with getting people all worked up. Thanks all for the comments.

    Sassman: Absinthe is not psychedelic. Kratom, however, most certainly is, at least when I tried it. Looks like we’ll just have to agree to disagree on that one. The information and doses come from Sage Wisdom, through which I procured my Kratom, so I would pass on your questions to him.

    TJ: Thanks for making Sassman look like a fool.

    Molokovelocet: I guess this means we aren’t friends…you’re pretty amped up over this Kra-tastrophe. “He obviously never tried it…”, um, it’s psychedelic, its legal, and its beverage, YOUT BET I’ve tried it. As for the Kratom Misinformation Conspiracy Guild of Ignorant People on the Internet (K.M.C.G.I.P.I.), it’s all part of the “pattern”. Check out the tv show “Fringe”, you’ll totally get what’s going on…


  8. Voodoostarr | Friday, December 12, 2008

    A psychedelic it is NOT. Did you nod off and dream and think you were hallucinating? Please get more experience under your belt before you post inaccurate articles like this. Have you read anything about Kratom before you even made your tea? I highly doubt it because 100’s of other experience reports do not point to Kratom as being a psychedelic.

    You want pain relief, anxiety or depression relief then try Kratom. You sure as hell aren’t going to hallucinate in any way shape or form.

    Stop posting such utter nonsense.


  9. Sojo | Friday, December 12, 2008

    Sounds like your order got screwed up and they sent you Salvia instead.. Your description certainly does not fit Kratom.


  10. Brian | Friday, December 12, 2008

    :grabs some popcorn and sits back in his chair:

    :P


  11. Lulu | Saturday, December 13, 2008

    Hey Sassman.
    Everyone listen to Sassman! He KNOWS kratom!! IT IS NOT A PSYCHEDELIC!!!!
    Articles like this are going to get Kratom banned!!


  12. Alan Kropf | Saturday, December 13, 2008

    Dear Non-believers,

    There is only one solution to this stalemate: Do Over. I’m gonna order some more Kratom, get a couple of friends together, and report the results. Stay tuned…


  13. dreamyb | Saturday, December 13, 2008

    There appear to be 2 classes of comments here, those by people who seem to know kratom, and those by people who obviously don’t, with Alan Kropf firmly in the latter camp.

    If, as a regular coffee drinker, you read a first-time use report by someone who had just discovered coffee for themselves, where they said they had a psychedelic experience, would you believe it? Well, that’s what the post above looks like to those who are familiar with kratom.

    My advice would be to remove it, as it will come to shame Alan Kropf over time – no matter what he says it will always be an obvious concoction to those who know better. Sorry Alan, but Kratom is not a psychedelic. I suggest further research.


  14. Jeff | Saturday, December 13, 2008

    I have never done Kratom, nor do I know much about it, but based on what I’ve read, it seems like some form of a psychedelic substance. It might not be a psychedelic substance with effects similar to LSD, maybe it is a more mild, or completely different “psychedelic” experience. Hell, people probably interrupt the word psychedelic differently than others. Alan Kropf never did mention anything about hallucinating or seeing dinosaurs running through his living room. Based on this blog it sounds like he was extremely relaxed more than anything.

    Maybe not all users experience the same effects, just as alcohol effects people differently. Some people become very angry when they are drunk, some people become social, fun and entertaining.


  15. cruz | Saturday, December 13, 2008

    Why are people getting so worked up?

    The writer just said he took too much, and basically became very mellowed out. That is my take on it at least.

    The claims of it being euphoric, immensely pleasurable, dreamy and ecstatic were clearly quoted from Sage Wisdom.

    I really don’t see the problem here.


  16. edi | Sunday, December 14, 2008

    Do your freaking research you idiots, psychoactive DOES NOT MEAN PSYCHEDELIC. Do any of you ever drink coffee, tea, soda, eat chocolate, ect. All of that contains caffeine which is classified as a PSYCHOACTIVE. Running around calling caffeine a psychedelic is just a fricking retarded as calling kratom a psychedelic.

    Open your eyes and freaking read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kratom

    Kratom is a Mu opiate agonist and triggers endorphines in your brain. THESE ABSOLUTELY ZERO HALLUCINOGENIC PROPERTIES!

    Alan K, You should be ashamed of yourself for presenting such a drastically ignorant article for people to read.

    THIS ARTICLE IS COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY FALSE, READ ANY REPUTABLE SITE ANYWHERE WITH SCIENTIFIC BACKGROUND AND YOU WILL UNDERSTAND WHY


  17. cruz | Sunday, December 14, 2008

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychoactive_drug
    Many PSYCHOACTIVE substances are used for their mood and perception altering effects, including those with accepted uses in medicine and psychiatry. Classes of drugs frequently used recreationally include:
    * Stimulants, which elevate the central nervous system. These are used recreationally for their euphoric effects.
    * Hallucinogens (PSYCHEDELICS, dissociatives and deliriants), which induce perceptual and cognitive distortions.
    * Hypnotics, which are used recreationally because they induce inebriation.
    * Analgesics, which are used recreationally because of their euphoric effects.
    * Inhalants, in the forms of gas aerosols, or solvents, which are inhaled as a vapor because of their stupefying effects. Many inhalants also fall into the above categories (such as Nitrous Oxide which is also an anelgesic)

    Examples include caffeine, alcohol, cocaine, LSD, and cannabis.


  18. Andreas | Sunday, December 14, 2008

    L O L… people getting so angry over Kratom ..


  19. Jeff | Sunday, December 14, 2008

    @edi Alan never mentioned “HALLUCINOGENIC”.


  20. Alan Kropf | Sunday, December 14, 2008

    Haha, cheers to Andreas.

    Naysayers: I have another shipment of Kratom on the way. I will try Kratom Tea again with some friends and report our findings, and being a sporting fellow, be more than happy to say that I am wrong if the effects aren’t consistent with my description of the first time I drank the stuff…


  21. Voltron | Tuesday, December 16, 2008

    Oh wow… How about everyone go out and get laid like a superhero, instead of whining like little He-Bitches…

    Yeah, i said…

    Voltron out…


  22. Nooker | Wednesday, January 14, 2009

    Let’s recap:

    1) Kratom is NOT a psychedelic/hallucinogen.
    2) 16-25 grams is way too much for a dose.

    I found Alan K’s ‘trip report’ humorous though, in the way I find Beavis and Butthead humorous, which is too say mindless and juvenile.


  23. ledhead | Thursday, February 12, 2009

    Kratom certainly isn’t psychedelic, perhaps he confused the word for pyschoactive. But it is way more than “a few cups of coffee” as someone stated. His dose was ridiculous, but he didn’t mention anything about his tolerance to things….less legal, which kratom is somewhat cross tolerant with.


  24. ajeewin | Friday, March 6, 2009

    something i might still in conclude,for psychedelics or psychoactive is entirely not for K ! stuff despite how much dosage you ingested.For the previous time when i was living in northern Thailand.i have view those abogenious taken kratom as a healing medicine instead of drug but some how there was a trick for create a phantom effect after using kratom but for sure those old folk never blood out cause its a way of complicated. As Alan said 16/25 maybe he wasn’t in the worng as a matter effect just out of some different way of using kratom.For my perception if literally kratom it yields euphoria effect there must be some mixture to enhance the kratom dosage for hallucination.I hope some one might have some suggestion & chime here


  25. John | Sunday, July 5, 2009

    It seems to me that the writer here forgot the first rule for ingesting anything for the first time. That rule being go slow and see how it affects you first.


  26. Ethan | Sunday, July 5, 2009

    So, what is the difference between phychadelic and psychoactive? I’m kind of confused on that point.


  27. Kratom Man | Sunday, April 4, 2010

    What’s better Pure leaf or extract?

    Can you make tea with extract?


  28. Me | Thursday, April 22, 2010

    I am making Kratom tea from the Kratom powder. You can search on the Internet about Kratom tea recipes. As far as I know, Kratom tea can be a good pain relief if you know how much you need to drink or use. I got my Kratom direct from Asia. I got Borneo Kratom. The quality is good. You should contact the seller direct through his link :

    http://www.facebook.com/kratom.mitragyna.speciosa?ref=mf


  29. WoodzyWooWoo | Saturday, November 6, 2010

    I generally take 20 grams of bali kratom once a week and I love it. It has improved my life a LOT. Perfect dose, never sick. My stomach doesn’t even rumble or anything and I feel great the next day. I’ve done bali, 15x, thai, extracts etc. and they all vary a bit in strength but for the most part I like 20 grams of bali after work on Wednesday night to get me through the week. Completely relives my stress and the next day I feel great. Only side effect is two days later I am a little constipated, no big deal, a bit of Metamucil and I am ready for next Wednesday. I also find it great for sex on ten grams.

    But hey we are all different. Some people like alcohol, i used to sort of like it (drank it too damn much) and since I found Kratom I never touch booze.


  30. Kratom | Tuesday, November 1, 2011

    I prefer kratom in tea over any other method.


  31. yeah | Saturday, July 21, 2012

    yeah I’ve done pretty many psychedelics. Kratom does contain tryptamine alkaloids…which coincidentally Shulgin has used to create some fine psychedelics. He ( Alan K.) was probably experiencing serotonin release. I have tripped to the point of music playing in head, cev, oev’s and while nothing like those trips…kratom did have a slightly psychedelic effect…probably only noticed by experienced pyschonauts.


  32. islandshaman | Friday, October 18, 2013

    Kratom is not psychedelic. Its scientifically documented to be an opioid recepter agonist. The only things that could be interpreted as psychedelic are: slight visual distortion (blurriness) and mood enhancement. It IS psychoactive, just like coffee or nicotine or alcohol or any other substance deemed.a drug. I personally don’t care what Alan thinks he saw–he took more Kratom than anyone I know. If you take too much benadryl it could be interpreted as psychedelic too. Not a hallucinogen. Not pay hedelic. Not trippy and doesn’t feel like rolling. Its closer to opium than it is psilocybin.


  33. islandshaman | Friday, October 18, 2013

    Furthermore Alan never stated what effects he actually experienced. I could say that nicotine is psychedelic and not say what I experienced and try to argue my point for the sake of convincing the public that nicotine is a must-try substance. However, we all know that is not the case, as any regular Kratom user would know its not only uneducated bullshit, its also likely to confuse a lot of younger people who might think “Kratom is psychedelic? Oh I bet its a great party drug.” Then it’ll be on the news and eventually become illegal–oh wait–thats happening right now. Thanks Alan for your sincere lack of education and harm reduction.


  34. Kim Jerue | Friday, December 13, 2013

    You have got to be kidding me who pays people to do these story’s? This is so far from the truth. 3 hours to make your way to the fridge??? This kind of thing proves media is a crock of s#it.



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